Episode Transcript
[00:00:01] Speaker A: Niall Magnish takes Johansey Odik's seat today. He will be back with us for our next episode. And ansel Blaze Isaac, the man himself, junior with us. Junior?
[00:00:12] Speaker B: Yeah, my father is ansel Isaac, so junior. Yeah. All right.
[00:00:15] Speaker A: Blaze Jr. Is with us here today. We're talking masculine energy. Now, before we get into gents, I want to read what now, there are many terms for masculine. There are many definitions, rather, for masculine energy, but this one was particularly apt. So masculine energy refers to a set of traits, behaviors, and qualities that are typically associated with masculinity or men.
[00:00:40] Speaker B: Well, yeah, I mean, this is self.
[00:00:41] Speaker A: Explanatory, but these traits can include assertiveness, confidence, independence, courage, and a focus on achieving goals. Masculine energy can also be characterized by competitiveness strength and a desire for control or dominance. It's important to note that masculine energy is not limited to men, as people of all genders can exhibit these traits. Additionally, not all men possess masculine energy, and some may exhibit feminine traits. So that gives us a starting point. A starting point to discuss.
[00:01:20] Speaker C: Finally, leave out logic on that one, too. Like being super logical, right. I feel that might lean towards masculinity a lot more.
[00:01:28] Speaker B: You think so? Yeah, I think from my experience, a lot of women are super logical, okay? And even more logical than men in many instances. Now, the emotional is there, and this is not womanhood, but the emotional is there. But sometimes I think that a lot of ladies and I take this from my mother, right?
She is always very logical. More logical than me.
[00:01:56] Speaker C: She have three sons.
[00:01:57] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:01:58] Speaker B: And she's been more logical than us most times.
[00:02:00] Speaker C: Right.
[00:02:00] Speaker B: So that's just the example I have. I don't know if it fits everyone.
[00:02:04] Speaker A: So this is what I want to get into. So you were looking at some research earlier, and you touched on logic. So in logic, you actually mentioned about something that I wasn't aware of with regards to how the brain works. So men are wired well, based on.
[00:02:18] Speaker C: The research that I just did, men's brains are wired front to back, typically, while women's brains are wired left to right.
[00:02:26] Speaker A: So not back to front or back. Okay.
[00:02:33] Speaker C: But because of that, that's where the attraction actually happens, right?
Yeah. But to go back to what Blaze mentioned about your mom, can I ask a question, a personal question?
Did you have your father figure?
[00:02:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:49] Speaker C: So your mom be logical, and your father was also logical in your household?
[00:02:52] Speaker B: He was a little logical sometimes, but you know what? In terms of that, we would spend more time with our mom. My dad, he was a soldier, all right? He was in the army, so he would be taking that's how it used to be. So you're spending more time with your mom. So I guess he was logical, too, but I would experience her logic.
[00:03:14] Speaker D: I just want to add to that. So I understand we're saying that because doing my research and stuff, also, they were saying that in terms of masculine energy is more geared towards logic, while the feminine energy is more towards, like.
[00:03:29] Speaker C: Intuitiveness and that kind of empathy, emotions.
[00:03:33] Speaker D: But one of the interesting things that Blaze raised there is a lot of families probably now, but more so back in the day, the wife or the mother was the one who handled the money, okay? So, like, the father figure might be the one earning the money, but he taken that money and rested.
So that level of logic now, that level of, hey, this is what we need to do. This is what needs to be done.
[00:04:01] Speaker A: Right?
[00:04:01] Speaker D: Blaze had a Blaze, okay, this June Blaze football practice coming up.
I can understand that level of so I agree with you that in reading, it was saying that more geared towards masculine energy, logic. But I agree with Blaze also from that perspective, like the woman with the ones handling the scene when it comes to the whole soul and showing that things done. Because even to a level no, my wife is the one to really, hey, this one needs to be done in March. This one needs to be done.
[00:04:36] Speaker B: Don't forget that.
[00:04:38] Speaker C: But would you apply that to logic, though? Because for me, I feel logic is more along the lines of when emotions are on the table, right? At some point in time, you have to be able to move aside the fantasy and do what has to be done. And a lot of the times and again, we generalize in here, of course, there will always be exceptions to the rules, right? But to me, I find that a lot of times, women in a general sense would masturbate to the fantasy of how life is supposed to be.
[00:05:17] Speaker B: Right?
[00:05:17] Speaker C: And the reason I would say that would be I am talking to my friend, she's around 36 years old right now, and she's still saying that she wants to wait for the right man who going to come along and Prince Charming, right? And I'm like, mom, after the age of 30, you already use 90% of your eggs. So from a logical standpoint, well, the.
[00:05:41] Speaker B: Other 10%, you want to save it for somebody who deserve the egg, which I get.
[00:05:46] Speaker C: But you're not thinking about how you're approaching it logically.
You're still trying to live in a space that is not most conducive to you. So rather than hoping for that perfect man to come along, how about start looking at your pool of any dating pool right now and saying, maybe I can't find the Prince Charming who could sweep me off my feet. Maybe I should go to my friends, list all people that are put in the friend zone. Maybe I should start looking at those men and saying, I could raise a.
[00:06:21] Speaker B: Family with this guy.
[00:06:22] Speaker C: He's not necessarily the guy that I.
[00:06:24] Speaker B: Want she has to be attracted to him.
[00:06:26] Speaker D: So after she tell you, after she.
[00:06:32] Speaker A: Is another topic that we want to discuss in manhood, like can men really have female friends or can females have guy friends or is it that something just hasn't happened as yet? But I want to bring it back to the topic of today, which is.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: But I want to add to that before thing there Robbie. I just want to add to Niall in terms of logic and you look at the way men and emotion logic and emotion two ends of the scope and it's like men just commit suicide more than women.
[00:07:11] Speaker C: Right?
[00:07:11] Speaker B: True.
[00:07:12] Speaker C: Right.
[00:07:12] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:07:12] Speaker B: And to me it's something emotional that would trigger them to do this most men. So then taking your life is not logical.
[00:07:22] Speaker C: I would agree.
[00:07:24] Speaker B: But men do it more than women. Somehow.
[00:07:30] Speaker D: Adding to what both of you are saying, I guess we had to also realize that it's never wanting, it's never black and white. So a man wouldn't be most logical.
You must have that balance because I think one of the things that they also list under feminine energy is like creativity.
[00:07:56] Speaker A: Right?
[00:07:56] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:07:59] Speaker D: The reality is that we know creative males, we know creative men and then also they list competitiveness on the masculine energy.
We know female athletes, we know women in the workplace.
I think we need to also establish that it will never be black and white.
[00:08:22] Speaker A: So that's why I want to bring it back to the definition that we read initially. So competitiveness creativeness logic, you said was missing from that definition.
[00:08:31] Speaker D: Agreed.
[00:08:31] Speaker A: But within that as in that definition, males can have feminine energy as well and females can have their masculine energy. Now in many respects that's a good thing and can actually help you survive. But the topic, what I want to drill down to in the focus of this brotherhood that we're speaking about here today is a negative impact and a negative impact of females having or in them what is called in their masculine energy. So give you a case in point.
A woman, they have two, three children. The guy is doing his utmost to say, earn money, bring it in, but it might not be enough. So that defeat. You find your partner then lives in her masculine energy and in survival mode and that might do certain things or have certain behaviors that she has to protect her young and protect herself and therefore may emasculate, may emasculate the partner. So the man feels less than because the woman may even come and say your kaim, handle your business. So it could be in the bedroom, it could be financially, financially, it could be in many different ways and it's that woman taking that stronger sort of alpha male position that then whether subtly subliminally, whether very to the frontal lobe, the man is aware of how he's feeling. It's dangerous.
I've had that experience where we find that women in a no, that's okay. As a survival mode in certain cases to get by in certain circumstances. But when it's part and parcel of your relationship and you're there trying to be the man of the house, but you're not being allowed to be the man of the house or felt or you don't feel like you're being the man of the house, it becomes a problem that may then connect to many other things down the line.
[00:10:32] Speaker C: Okay, I stumped.
[00:10:33] Speaker A: Everyone there.
[00:10:34] Speaker C: No, you didn't stump me. I actually will come into based on what you were saying, at the end of the day, balance is key. Right? Correct. You're supposed to have both feminine and masculine energy, male or female. Of course, they'll always have a misbalance. Misbalance is a word.
Imbalance. Thank you. Right. Forgive me. To my parents.
So what I hear in you saying is that there's an imbalance where the woman now feels that she has to take or she naturally starts to take a more masculine role in the relationship and the man starts to take a feminine role. To me, that means that the man himself. Because if I was in a relationship, it will never happen.
Even if she starts to go up in her masculinity, I know or I feel confident that my masculinity will always not only match, but surpass hers, always keeping her in her more feminine frame. So if it is that a man is feeling emasculated by his wife or his partner, what that is telling me is that his imbalance is really saying that the reason why she's becoming that is because he is more feminine in his frame.
[00:11:52] Speaker A: So let me just get a bit clear.
It does. But that again, is maybe based on the analogy that I gave that was the perception or what you derived from that, but it goes a step further. I'm saying, okay, so I don't know if you've been in a situation the wifey, girlfriend, partner asks you a question and you give an answer and then they still want check.
I'm looking at something on Netflix now, I won't reveal what this series is, but you see things where you're with a partner and they really respect or admire someone else. Someone else who might be exuding, maybe a bit more masculine.
[00:12:34] Speaker D: Big energy.
[00:12:36] Speaker C: Exactly. Okay.
[00:12:37] Speaker A: That's what it is. That's what it is. And therefore alpha, alpha, alpha. And is it that like we were talking about, you asked the question earlier about is she attracted to maybe somebody on her friends list? So does it come down to that fact that women are looking sizing up a man to say, do you hit the checklist as to what I want my offspring to look like? And therefore if I'm with you but you're not, or maybe you started off being that way, maybe they thought something of you at that particular point, but now they're looking at others as you know what? I'd rather listen to him. And sometimes they're not doing consciously. It's just whether it's lack of respect or different things that happen but you mightn't even recognize it Niall. That's what I'm saying. But you start to but you'll feel it. But you start to feel it.
[00:13:25] Speaker C: Okay?
[00:13:25] Speaker A: And then you start to feel less than like you might be trying your best to do something. You might be working as hard as you can to make a dollar on somebody.
[00:13:35] Speaker C: But the reality still remains that even though you're feeling it and you're working as hard as you can and you're still not able to satisfy mentally for her, that still doesn't take away from the fact that that man might still be more feminine.
[00:13:49] Speaker A: Granted but what about the other scenarios where they're not?
[00:13:54] Speaker C: Well if that's the case then in reality she will never be able to be in her masculine frame.
Two man rat can't be in the same hole. So if I'm a man man I'm an alpha man, right?
And she trying to go up in gears it will never work out. Something will give, somebody will break.
[00:14:14] Speaker A: I don't think it's a trusting too like they don't trust that listen, if I relax here if I don't do something that you will meet those needs that if I stop working or if I stop doing this particular thing that therefore you would step up to the plate in that point. I think it comes down to in certain cases a trust thing.
[00:14:35] Speaker B: Well the thing mean it's true what you're saying denial. I mean it have some men they're very alpha and it's my house and my rules and my and take it down and obviously they can't really contend with a woman who not just willing to just buckle down and be submissive that kind of thing and it's true. But I believe even with the manhood and male energy and man energy and alphanus I believe also that there must be a balance.
And I think part of being a man is understanding a woman. That's just how it is and the energies obviously you have your masculine energy and I can't help it.
It's just like men who have a little more feminine energy they can't help it. You might think dan WAM do you know just like others you can't help it. So it really comes down boy, honestly I know we're not talking about relationships in this episode but if it's relationships it really comes down to a kind of balance. Now another men is just take it easy.
They have masculine energy but they're just.
[00:15:56] Speaker C: Cool WiFi.
[00:16:01] Speaker B: You don't have men like that. You go in now you want to buy peanut butter? Well go ahead. Now I really like it. But if I do that that doesn't mean that my masculine energy gone. I agree, you understand. It just means that that's really important to me. I don't really care about that. Yeah, that fight didn't really wilt it. That coral, that side eyed, that cut. I didn't really wilt it. You know what I mean? My priorities different.
And that's another thing too. People priorities change during relationship.
[00:16:30] Speaker A: That is correct.
[00:16:32] Speaker B: What they start off wanting, they mightn't want that in the middle. And in the end, that's how things happen. And that's why they say people change. It's not a people change. It's that what you want change.
The person is the same person, more or less.
[00:16:51] Speaker C: So you mentioned having a balance, right. And you also went on to say that as a man, you need to understand your woman that day in itself is empathy, which is a feminine trait in terms of masculine and feminine. Right. So where the balance really is for a man, if you're well balanced, you would understand your woman. For me, personally, I don't agree with alpha males, that whole alpha male lifestyle, because that to me says that you are imbalanced in your masculinity. You way too masculine, you're too much on one side. Right. For you to only function as a masculine man, who you so alpha, you need a super feminine woman who is just she don't talk, she submissive.
So I could see why those two match. But what happens when the scale is a little bit warped in between? That's where the mismatches happen. And sometimes the reality is you're in the wrong relationship with the wrong person.
[00:17:52] Speaker A: Just to touch on what you just said there. Is it then that the woman doesn't see enough masculine energy from you or doesn't feel that masculine energy from you? And therefore whether it be that you simply don't have it maybe a two, for lack of a better term, creative.
[00:18:09] Speaker B: Or too much on that scale?
[00:18:11] Speaker A: Too much.
[00:18:14] Speaker B: We all sit here and we all are creatives.
[00:18:16] Speaker A: Exactly. And some more than others. And in certain, I can't help it.
[00:18:27] Speaker B: Jump on.
Yeah.
[00:18:35] Speaker A: So is it is it that they simply don't feel that from you? Rather than you may be in a case where you're picking and choosing your battles and therefore they might it's not that it's not there. It's just simply that they don't feel it from coming back to the point of women feeling that that pillar that they require or that even though you may have that pillar there you might be earning, et cetera. They don't feel that and therefore they're looking at someone else, maybe in another relationship and going, why my man can't be like that.
[00:19:05] Speaker D: Well, funny thing I mentioned that because about last week or so on your show, the Morning show, you all were asking, like, on a scale of one to ten, how would you rate, like, your significant other?
Well, up to the point when I was listening, a lot of the woman was rated their significant and wanted more.
So there were some instances where women were saying, boy, I want him to tell me. I can't do that.
[00:19:43] Speaker A: I gave the name.
[00:19:46] Speaker B: We can find out.
Yeah.
[00:19:51] Speaker D: The majority of them were saying, boy, he's a mopsy man.
[00:19:54] Speaker C: And people husbands that they were talking about.
So here's my question. How come they in those relationship with those men?
[00:20:05] Speaker B: They just settle.
And that's what it know. Because a lot of people and you see it with women, see with men, too.
This is by no means a relationship forum, but just based on the experience. And as Joel pointed out, even I was taken aback with the results of that poll, unofficial poll. And the woman and I was saying, well, he's a four. I need to be a little more.
[00:20:30] Speaker D: He needs to tell me I want to buy something. Tell me no.
[00:20:33] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:34] Speaker B: A woman say that. She said he need to tell me no. But he not telling mano enough.
[00:20:39] Speaker C: But I grew up in a time where a happy wife is a happy life.
[00:20:44] Speaker B: Well, we were taught right.
[00:20:47] Speaker C: Who were we taught that by, though?
[00:20:49] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:20:50] Speaker C: We just heard it from where.
[00:20:59] Speaker A: It comes down to the episode where we spoke about toxic masculinity.
Where do these phrases where do these.
[00:21:06] Speaker B: Sayings, where do these come from?
[00:21:08] Speaker A: Come from?
[00:21:10] Speaker B: They're just in the air, like I heard. Right. I heard not to cut you off a joke.
[00:21:14] Speaker D: Sorry.
[00:21:15] Speaker B: I heard I was in a function and a guy, he was given some pep talk and thing, and he said he said, I tell people, pull up your big girl panty. And I never heard that before. You ever heard that?
I always heard, pull up your big boy pants.
[00:21:34] Speaker A: That's what I heard.
[00:21:35] Speaker B: But he said, Pull up your big girl panty. And I say, look at that. But where these things come from, we don't know. No, for me, it come from him. So every time I say that, it comes from him.
I can't remember who said that.
[00:21:50] Speaker D: And then also with the relationship thing.
[00:21:52] Speaker C: Right.
[00:21:54] Speaker D: We know Bob Marley.
[00:21:55] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:21:55] Speaker D: Bob Marley had Rita and wife. So I was watching this documentary a while back and they're talking to Rita, and Rita is basically saying, bob is not the kind of man I like this little red man, soft feet. She said what? I like big, tough, dark skin.
[00:22:12] Speaker B: And then they flash a shot of Peter Tosh.
[00:22:20] Speaker D: Because she said, well, obviously we know what has come out of it. She has legacy and generational wealth and stuff like that. But the man that was ready, her type didn't.
[00:22:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
So is it safe to say that sexually attract sexual attraction and security for women sometimes are different people?
[00:22:48] Speaker A: True.
[00:22:48] Speaker C: Because women are wired to be secure.
[00:22:51] Speaker B: What? That's why women is going horn.
That's what it is. Because if you are unfaithful, maybe you're right.
In a relationship, that person have something that missing. That missing here. That's what it is. He might have the finance and security and whatever. Not saying that the man can't have his time, but he's not enough. So you go by a Joe Grind because that's what his position. Joe Grinds. He working away all.
[00:23:23] Speaker D: He knows to do is smoke weed and beat up.
[00:23:25] Speaker B: Correcting. To kill people or kill somebody wife or kill friends. That's what Joe Griner.
[00:23:40] Speaker A: Is it that we say monogamy, for the most part is a construct, is it? That, as you said, 80% is the safety. Who's the man she may marry? Any 15% or 20% is the bad boy. In the back of her mind that either was part of her body count or is it that person is looming outside or is some sort of fantasy to be fulfilled. Hence that there would never be 100% of a respect or full on I'm into you type scenario. Because if you're married a bad boy, then that comes with other things.
[00:24:18] Speaker B: Well, yeah.
[00:24:21] Speaker D: He may not necessarily be the person that you would look at as a father figure for your children and stuff like that.
[00:24:26] Speaker C: I feel like main thing.
[00:24:28] Speaker D: Correct. You don't feel like somebody for the future yeah somebody that you could somebody who will ensure 03:00 the children had to get picked up yeah not sure.
[00:24:36] Speaker B: Clock key on our beat somebody else.
[00:24:44] Speaker C: They eleven so that means so that means a real good conversation, I must say. So that means, based on the if a man is imbalanced to a woman, she will always err to the side of I need to ensure that my offsprings are okay. So if it is he not given the full masculinity that she really want, where her sexual side and her emotional side could be satisfied. She will always lean towards the side of my kids need to be okay. That's all. I gather 90%. Of your eggs on gone so her mind don't switch into yo. I don't care about nothing else other than my offsprings.
[00:25:25] Speaker A: So you're making a very good point there. So is it then, that we're looking at masculine energy?
In two silos or maybe as maybe in one complete one. But if you are in a relationship with no children, masculine energy may be different in this particular circumstance. But with kids, there's survival that comes in. So you may say, listen, that 15%. That's my needs I could put on our back burner or I could get at by Joe Grinds.
[00:25:54] Speaker B: Right.
[00:25:54] Speaker A: Basically, the masculine energy in terms of I look at you and my masculine energy is suppressed. Because in this particular case, I don't have to be in survival mode because you're a good father. Or if you're not a good father, then it's increase as a result of you're not providing that. But if you're also not a Joe grinds and satisfying the other side of me, then we're not problem. So is it that we compartmentalize in to say okay, well, there's a difference. And as we speak in relationships and masculine energy between a woman with kids and in a relationship without kids. Because in both cases there could be that masculine energy that's in a negative capacity.
[00:26:39] Speaker B: Just as we do on this show where we look at manhood and we discuss male esque topics. And it's complexities. And the same thing happens with relationships. Relationship people can write books from now till whenever people will buy it but it still wouldn't provide all the answers. That's just how it is. And when we delve into these things now we delve into complexities. Each relationship is complex because it's like a human being. All of us are different in some form or fashion. There's not a perfect human being although Hitler tried to that failed miserably. But at the end of the day it is something where it is very complex now. So to say that what might work for X might work for Y and that's where all the complexities happen. While a woman might like a man whorell artsy and thing and then it's.
[00:27:42] Speaker A: All over the place.
[00:27:43] Speaker B: So this is something that we can just speak out, discover and keep on discussing with healthy discussion.
[00:27:52] Speaker A: And on further to that blaze is the fact that people change today. You like Payload? Yeah, just some more. You want steaks? You go through different points in your life, social influences because we as men change too. Exactly.
[00:28:04] Speaker B: We change too.
[00:28:04] Speaker C: We have different wants as we age.
[00:28:07] Speaker B: As we age it. And nobody's 100% complete for somebody. That only happens in the movies.
[00:28:14] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:28:15] Speaker B: And we are always trying to live we live like a movie and then we find out that's a movie.
[00:28:20] Speaker C: So in other words, basically the balance of femininity and masculinity keep changing the scale. Always keep moving as you go along.
So for me now, again trying to understand this in totality if I'm a husband and I have a wife with children I have to identify that her scale is moving and I have to try to adjust my scale accordingly and vice versa. If she's a good wife, she need to know that my scale movement I mightn't be as aggressive as I was to begin with.
She had to adjust her scaling too.
[00:28:59] Speaker B: And then different things change you because I know it are men who's real hard man them as bad man. You can't mush the clocks. Don't even look at don't look at me. And these men I have seen these men change. And them well, back in my days them fellows as grandfathers now and them real cool and calm and nice because things like children just change. People like men. I have two girls and I girl children is like change. They softening up anybody who have girl children. No boys. Yeah, all children has changed people boys.
I don't have boy children so probably had to take a different approach with a boy. So different things now, Niall might do so now and Niall is a hard man or Joel, right?
Like she like she liked the man thing and then she make a gill child for him and he just start all of a sudden after he get a gill he just become more flurry and softer and she might be watching but he can't help it. He can't help it because he adjusted to life.
[00:30:19] Speaker A: Correct.
[00:30:20] Speaker B: So this is what takes place the manhood now and the masculine and the thing different things has changed it at different times you understand. But then when your daughter grew up now and she got a boyfriend now all of a sudden I had to show him who's more man it is right, it is right. And as Niall said you had to know when to adjust with her because sometimes she might be feeling fine are not really assertive enough and work the telmata need to be more assertive. So she now trying to be more assertive and she coming at you with the assertiveness now. And you say my mom to she take it on.
But is a circumstance causing that circumstance causing it in the same way? Just like how I explained with you that so this is something that going back and forth and it riding during their life is different things and we now need to adjust with each other.
[00:31:16] Speaker C: Most people don't know how to identify that with themselves. We'll say it with their partner. Yeah, because as my grandfather told me a long time ago, he said woman is test for men all the time. They go and test here every week because again for her security and safety. Right. So just like how you want to know if this is film if I could stand on this you're going to get tests every day. So just like the example I gave Rob, where she asks you a question, you give her the answer, but she still go back and check.
And that's where now the man now supposed to either pass or fail. And the fail might be boiling down when what she's really looking for based on each she's supposed to be a.
[00:32:09] Speaker B: Yo, come out now.
[00:32:09] Speaker C: I know tell you that is the answer you waste.
[00:32:19] Speaker A: But then we come back to, as you mentioned about listening to Blade show, where they talk about that and maybe they're missing that percentage. But do they acknowledge, first of all, that they're missing that percentage in their peers? Or if you hear that conversation or a friend call it and say, hey, that's all like the wife. And then you decide this. Are you going to put on a bit of assertiveness? Is it now when this week they're feeling like this, the following week they make a change all I said they watch something on TV, something all of a sudden you in toxic masculine.
All of a sudden you in a different realm now that now could be having a negative impact even though you're. Positively trying to enhance your relationship or to fill a gap. So is it that we're saying women simply don't know what they want, which is, if you don't know what you want because you're human, things change, life changes.
How then?
If I just bring this sort of full conversation back to we want to always leave someone with we don't know it all. We don't pretend to know it all. We're not speaking on behalf of all. We're just speaking. We're just talking. We're having a conversation. So if in masculine energy in your relationship, you simply cannot provide what might have them in their masculine energy, what do you do? So they want a Range Rover or they want a particular lifestyle and you hustling for $5,000 a month, but you're honest living, you're doing everything that you can do. Or in another situation, it could be in the bedroom, wherever the case may be. But if you simply can't deliver that, is it a case of walk away?
[00:34:07] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:34:07] Speaker B: You got to move on. You have to because why are you staying there? I mean, you cannot let's listen, either, man I just call a speed of speed and you need to call us speed of speed before you call it with people. You need to call it, which is interesting. I can't go in our bodybuilding competition with ABS.
I know that. I'm not going to try. I'm not going if somebody said, please, we were here for a bodybuilding competition, I said, no. Why? Because I can't. But you understand and you have to.
[00:34:36] Speaker A: Be not this much.
[00:34:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I wouldn't even do that.
Check it out.
Check. Robert I'm a partner. Right?
That is where we need to channel first in terms of we need to arrange and kind of judge ourselves, not too hard, but that's what we need to do. We need to be real with ourselves first. And if that is not happening for you, you need to move on, find somebody else, go by yourself, do some introspection or have a conversation and let the person know how you feel and what they want and see if some kind of compromise could happen that's based on communication. She say, Well, I don't really want to hear you. I want long organ. Morgan.
There's no way I can come in that realm.
I need to press.
[00:35:40] Speaker C: But to be real with yourself, you actually need to have a balance between logic and emotion and true. You have to have that because you need to be able to say, okay, something not working, which is a logical side coming into play. And then you need to be able to have self empathy, which is now your emotional side. And the only way you could do those two things is if you're balanced only middle, because I could tell you for sure, alpha males cannot tell when they don't care.
Following the thought where you say, yeah, you had to be real but I feel it really takes practice over and over with your partner, not only with yourself, but with your partner to get to that level of something not right with me. I feel like I might be a little too soft with you, honey. Like being able to talk to you. I should no man ever say I a little bit too feminine with you. What do you think?
I doubt a conversation like that.
[00:36:44] Speaker D: Why.
[00:36:44] Speaker C: Those women call it the station. Rather than talking to the man and say, oh, gosh, tell me, tell me I can't do this now, please.
[00:36:51] Speaker A: But you see, it might be open Pandora's box at that time. Because if you directly tell them that tell me no right. Or tell me go and do something. You see, when they're ready to switch now and the next week, the following week, they decide they're in a different zone or a different mode, you say.
[00:37:06] Speaker D: But you tell me you asked me to do this.
[00:37:09] Speaker A: Or you might find that they like it. You might find a demand no likes a like.
[00:37:18] Speaker B: You do.
[00:37:23] Speaker A: Ask for that where you then, you know, rein it back. And this is somebody thing. So the flip side to the conversation now is feminine energy with our mate. Therefore, how much do you then exude?
[00:37:41] Speaker B: How much do you feminine for men?
I don't know. And as I said, it goes back to who you are, who you are.
[00:37:50] Speaker D: And where you are.
[00:37:51] Speaker A: Because then you could be somebody calling on Blaze show. So you could be the recipient of somebody calling on Blaze show. If you out there in your feminine energy.
[00:38:01] Speaker C: No, just to be clear, feminine energy in men does not result in homosexuality.
[00:38:08] Speaker B: You're a little too soft. Yeah, you're too soft.
[00:38:11] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:38:12] Speaker B: Not necessarily that you're attracted to men or anything like that. Or you're moving a certain way. Correct. It's just that you're a little too soft.
[00:38:18] Speaker A: Okay, let's communicate. What can I do for you today? Let me give you a must, which is not horrible.
[00:38:29] Speaker D: As soon as she walked to the door, husband has take off her shoes.
[00:38:38] Speaker B: And it's like I was asking, right? I asked her, well, don't women want that? Exactly. But where it came from. And I came to that conclusion for myself, it came from a place of jealousy. Could be because she said her friend, her friend man is do that. Now. Her friend man is a soft man. But it's coming from a place of jealousy because she wish she had a man who does do that.
You understand? So you got to look at where things coming from too well.
[00:39:04] Speaker A: And then love language.
[00:39:05] Speaker C: That's really interesting.
[00:39:07] Speaker A: Women say they want to be touched. And then when you touch her no. What? You're not touching me hard enough or you're not touching me.
You're moving too soft.
[00:39:17] Speaker C: Well, when you always say, I feel like I'm the man who will rub my wife foot when she comes to the door.
[00:39:23] Speaker B: And that's why I see him.
[00:39:26] Speaker C: I'm very acts of service, which is my love language.
[00:39:29] Speaker B: Right?
[00:39:30] Speaker C: I have been told that I'm more of a feminine guy. I get hit on by gay guys all the time.
I don't say sorry again, I'm very confident within my masculinity. That's why there's no issue for me to say this, right? I wouldn't get offended when a man walk up to me and be like, yo, you're very attractive.
[00:39:55] Speaker D: Thanks.
[00:39:56] Speaker C: It's cool.
[00:40:00] Speaker B: If they come in too sharp.
[00:40:01] Speaker C: If you come like anything else, I'm not interested. You're still activating I might have to push this scale back over and be like, you're, my Lord, my Lord.
Still too. So my point is that I'm very Lord.
[00:40:22] Speaker B: I thought he's calling like, you're gonna pray, my Lord, my Lord. Not like that. Say, My Lord.
[00:40:36] Speaker A: My Lord, my Lord, just before, you know, before you activate.
[00:40:46] Speaker C: I actually had to get to that situation like that because, again, I'm so passive.
He felt like I was rejecting him rather than you still think I was gay? And he felt like I was playing hard to get.
I knew that at that point in time, I had to put on my logical cap and I had to be more aggressive in that particular situation for him to understand I'm not homosexual at all. I'm just very cool. Passive.
[00:41:19] Speaker D: I'm cool.
[00:41:20] Speaker C: I am cool.
But granted, I may have been showing signs because, one, I was in a space where I wasn't supposed to be in with a girlfriend at the time because she was supporting one of her gay friends. And I have no problem going to a gay bar with my saying. So he now thinking and he bring and he bring a drink across for Trinidad. This is in Trinidad.
[00:41:46] Speaker A: You're wearing your pencil? Jeans.
[00:41:47] Speaker C: Wearing my pencil Jean. And he bring a drink across for man. I said thank you. Drink. It something fruity, right?
I don't like that, so I just leave it on. Ibana they come across.
[00:42:03] Speaker B: No meat.
[00:42:08] Speaker C: That my balance. May be more on the feminine side. If I'm speaking, if I'm looking at myself, I'm too pussy, right? So I could see how women, especially women who call in would look at their man and say, he a little bit too feminine for me. But that just tells me that they know are with the wrong person.
They chose that person out of security for their offspring rather than what they truly desire. You understand what I'm saying?
[00:42:41] Speaker D: But then that could be logic.
[00:42:48] Speaker C: Or desperation, because that could be instincts rather than logic. Logic. Okay. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. You they're just doing this because they know that's not a decision generally that could have been made.
[00:43:01] Speaker A: So real good conversation as always. Okay. This one particularly, because I think this one brought in a lot of other topics.
[00:43:10] Speaker D: It did.
[00:43:10] Speaker A: And also it allows for a lot more topics to come from this. There's so many conversations that could be derived from this energy. Even something you had mentioned on the top, which was speaking about men committing suicide. And there's also reasons behind that as we go into domestic violence and those types of conversations. So that being said, Blaze, you want to close with your closing?
[00:43:34] Speaker B: Well, the thing is, when we have these great discussions, you realize that we can't just discuss one thing because everything kind of interrelates. So sometimes we might say things over and over just because it's interrelated and you can't discuss this topic without that. It can't stand on its own. You know what I mean?
For me, it means, as having discussed this with three of my colleagues here, it means balance. We are how we are, whether that's the way we grew up in the environment or examples, whatever.
But we need to adjust to people and people need to adjust to us.
[00:44:18] Speaker D: Correct?
[00:44:19] Speaker B: That is what it is. That's what I think. And sometimes what you start with, you might really want that. And those are the changes that we go through. Sometimes the changes are unfortunate and unfortunate things happen because of those changes. But we can't help it. It's just human nature. So the whole thing about this and about all the discussions that we always have to discuss, what we've discussed, what we will discuss is balance. That ying and Yang. That's the universe.
[00:44:47] Speaker A: That's the universe, correct?
[00:44:48] Speaker B: Fox, you understand? So that's why I gained from this, that things happen when you start with you might want it again, it might switch, but then the communication must be there somehow or the other and you adjust accordingly.
[00:45:03] Speaker D: Well, my takeaway is Longog and Morgan.
[00:45:10] Speaker B: Normally is.
[00:45:15] Speaker D: Good now, but honest. On a serious note, as as Blaze says, in life, everything is not black and white.
This has to be so or this has to be so. The reality is that everybody has a level of masculine energy in them and a level of feminine energy in them. And as Niall's continuously saying was finding that balance. So to me, that's what comes out to it will never be even within the most alpha of alpha males, there may be something, there is a level of feminine energy that no matter what they say, there is that there. And on the other end of the spectrum, the most feminine of women, otherwise you'll always have that masculine engine. It's all about finding the balance between the two and helping us navigate true life with balance. Because anything that is of too much of one thing will never be good. I love curry, eating curry every day. Three days will never be good. So it's just all about finding the balance. And this conversation, I have enjoyed each conversation that we have had so far. It's always good. Sitting on with brothers and reasoning. I think that I would encourage that.
[00:46:38] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:46:39] Speaker C: In closing, for me, I would say that everything has been established that balance is needed. Right. But I feel like the conversation needs to start with self first. Self realization and reflection. I feel that's like the main thing. And only then you could now understand someone else. Only when you have a strong understanding of self after that, then you're wasting time, to be honest. Right. And I just want to just reiterate that when we use the words feminine energy and masculine energy, we don't mean female and married. We just mean the traits that fall underneath those based on the description that you read. Right. So that's the only thing that I wanted to make sure that was said.
I really appreciate this having me. Absolutely.
Unfortunately, I didn't want to do it as a real.
[00:47:41] Speaker B: I pull off your glove, Lord.
[00:47:47] Speaker C: You know?
[00:47:49] Speaker A: You know, once again, a really, really good conversation. I hope that those who are listening and viewing really take something away from our conversations. And again, we don't even attempt to speak on behalf of all men, or even speak on behalf of what women may be thinking. We're simply having a conversation to invoke thought, opinion, and to hopefully make change. And also, manhood is about better as brothers, of which we all are. So, Niall, it was a pleasure, I think. Of course, man, you certainly brought something a next level to the conversation. And the takeaway for me in this particular episode is balance. And in balance, we are not talking about masculine or feminine as a gender, as you alluded to Niall, but it's an energy, and there's nothing wrong. It's actually a positive for males to have feminine energy as well as females to have masculine energy. But there must be balance. Balance is important. So, guys, next episode's topic. Yeah, topic one time, what are we talking about?
[00:48:59] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:49:00] Speaker A: Relationships?
[00:49:01] Speaker C: I feel like you mentioned something to do with domestic violence, especially in your household. And I feel that it goes both ways. It goes both ways. There are a lot of men who get abused in their household.
It goes unsaid a lot of the times. And I feel like that's something that some men need their voices heard in situations like that.
[00:49:25] Speaker A: And men, the fact is, why are we doing those things? Because in the same way, men are also recipients of domestic violence, be it mental or physical abuse.
The stats show it's women for the most part. And Trinity, I believe it's three in one because it's reported. It's reported. So it's simply not acceptable. But that's next week.
[00:49:48] Speaker D: And we also need to touch on that topic of suicide.
[00:49:53] Speaker A: So another episode of Manhood. Joel Niall blaze myself. Robert thanks again.
